Jinx What about using "rough service" bulbs. We use them on out garage door opener as the vibration kills std. bulbs in a matter of weeks. The "RS" bulbs last > 1 year. I generally get them from a repair outlet here in Chch so I imagine a similar place in Auckland would be available to you. The ones I use are ES fitting but I'm sure I've seen bayonet versions as well. Richard P > Inadequate ventilation, allowing excessive heat build up? Open metal housings > Large spikes on the power line? Horrible coincidence if there's one always EXACTLY at turn on > Multiple hard on/off cycles? Once on at sunset, once off at bedtime. That's about as kind as you could be > Excessive vibration? Fixed firmly to walls and ceilings > Seems to me that it would be far better to correct the problem > than to waste 5% or 11% of the electricity you are buying I agree, if there was an identifiable cause other than the obvious wear and tear through under-rated manufacturing. I betcha bulb mftrs could make bulbs last a damn sight longer if they wanted to. Resistors are an acceptable $10 one-off alternative to spending $50 a year on replacement bulbs. Besides, as the brightness hardly changes, what's the diff ? -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.