vasile: >P, PI but never PID. Real application demonstrate ( for me ) that PID is >almost pure theoretical. So could you point just one *real* example in This website has a great engineering style motion control tutorial (i.e. it's not just a load of abstact math) which I personally found a good refresher to the stuff I studied at university. I really can't recommend this document enough: http://www.newport.com/Motion_Control/Tutorial/ or grab the pdf: http://www.newport.com/file_store/Motion_Control/Tutorial/PDF_Files/motion_tutorial.pdf in order of increasing complexity of control systems, I would suggest: P - gets near there quite quickly. the quicker you get the more (chance) of overshoot PD - adding some derivative lets you crank up the P term some more to get faster response without too much overshoot PID - the integral term is the icing on the cake allowing you to remove steady state error (depending on your application you may not actually care about steady state error it it is already 'small enough', in which case you may end up with the integral term at zero to avoid the possible decrease in stability. PI systems would require physical damping of some sort in order to avoid instability, so maybe if you have used this type of system with success in the past it is because your physical system is already realtively heavily damped? Regards, Simon -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics