> Look to South Africa for Car Security. > him a kneecap and parts of his p*****. Aw, shame I see they outlawed the anti-carjacking flame gun. For those who haven't seen it, it was a row of gas burners mounted under the sill between the front and rear wheels. If anyone tries to hijack the car (an epidemic in SA) when you're in it, you push a button and two big sheets of yellow flame10ft high fire out very ferociously and incinerate anyone/anything either side of the car. Charming. Still, thieves aren't content with depriving you of just property these days, they'll take your life too if the fancy strikes them. And it does -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics