Ok, I'm calm now... ...Is every one clear that this is not a money maker for me??? I am getting a bit tired of doing all the updating. I envisioned that once I had built the site to a "critical mass" and attracted enough browsers, they would start using the little "add a comment" form to update it directly. But no, I still do almost all of it. I'd like to concentrate on just adding new scripting features like the archive, search engine, keyword highlighting, and "search for more information on this subject" at the bottom of each page based on keywords from the page title, that I have already done. Ideas I'd like to work on now are - Automatic linking of search results to the source page where the search keywords were extracted from the title based on "did this answer your question" links, - A database of consultants related to each area with a "would you like to be referred to an expert in this area" if the search results or browsing is not helpful. The consultants pick what pages they want referrals from and maintain their own contact information. - An "email me changes to this page" link Totally automatic. If the page is edited, it gets mailed to a list of people who are interested. - A monthly newsletter subscription option with a summary of new content on the site. The update script just logs all the updates into a "new" file and that is emailed to subscribers on a regular basis. - A parametric PIC, SX, AVR part selection engine with the ability for any member to update the chip information to include "gotchas", "workarounds", etc... THAT one really needs someone else to volunteer to load it and keep the data up to date. - Shopping cart service with check draft processing (credit cards by paypal or ccnow) for people who want to sell or auction a few related items. I already have a check script working at http://www.massmind.org/cgi-bin/checkdraft.asp and a tax and shipping quote calculator at http://magicland.massmind.org/cgi-bin/taxship.asp?taxableamount=10.00 - Stocking and shipping services for manufacturers of related devices from outside the US. Quickly shipping products into the US on a case by case bases is very expensive for people who are overseas. I would need to get my time paid for on that one, but I've been asked by several people to do it, some I'm trying to figure out how it would make sense. I think the only way to get around the FCC requirements is to limit the service to Kits. According to http://dataweb.usitc.gov/scripts/tariff2001.asp the closest customs code is 85425000.-- Electronic microassemblies and there is no duty on imports of that type from countries that we trade with. Anyone who knows anything about this stuff? - A dictionary that excludes common words but automatically provides links to foldocs or some other page on the piclist.com site for technical terms and phrases. But I don't have any time to do all that when I'm working my butt off just to keep up with posting the good code, suggestions, answers and whatnot from the list onto the site. Is anyone willing to help? James Newton, PICList Admin #3 mailto:jamesnewton@piclist.com 1-619-652-0593 phone http://www.piclist.com ----- Original Message ----- From: James Newton To: Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 13:40 Subject: [OT]: #3's Books (was Allocation site?) Dan Michaels said: Am I wrong, or are you not also the guy getting rich off of it? [you will recall when I asked what your advertising rates were recently - ie, last week - you said you were going to raise them, as PICList was getting so popular - care to publish the books?? - ;)]. Now that hurts... A) I HAVE NOT GOTTEN PAID ONE DAMN DIME FOR SETTING UP THAT SITE. Well, actually Amazon.com sent me a $25 check once for book referral payment, some of which may have been off piclist.com. B) IT COSTS $$$ PER MONTH TO PAY MY ISP FOR SERVER CO-LOCATION SO I CAN RUN ASP SCRIPTS AND USE MY OWN BOXS AND I PAY THAT OUT OF POCKET. I like ASP, and made my living off it for a while. I wanted to learn NT IIS admin and so I did the hosting my self. Also so you wouldn't have to look at popup advertisements... C) NO I DO NOT ACCEPT PAID ADVERTIZING FOR THE PICLIST.COM SITE. We were discussing massmind.org which does contain some of the same content, but to date, I have not sold any advertising on any of my sites. Has anyone ever seen any ads on these sites? D) I SET UP A PAGE FOR PEOPLE TO DONATE MONEY TO PICLIST MEMBERS WHO HAVE MADE OUTSTANDING CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE LIST (yes, there is a link for me) AND EVEN CALLED FOR PEOPLE TO HELP WHEN A MEMBER NEEDED IT, AND NO ONE HAS ***EVER*** DONATED. http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist/support.htm You want an advertisement? There it is. Make Jory, Wouter, Tony, Scott, Dmitry, Nikolai, Jeff, Alan and Me rich. Yeah right... Jory has donated a NT Server License and a 5 port 10baseT hub and another gent (annon) sent me SQL Server and helped with the parts for the new server box. The old box is now the SQL Server (for the archive). I setup my old personal machine as a Linux box (that is not doing DNS the way I want it to) that helps with the reminder emails. The local Microchip FAE loaned me an old ICD *AFTER* he saw how much I supported the ICD idea on the list vs Emulators. I've used it twice to play around and test ideas. He will get it back anytime he asks for it and you KNOW I don't mind publishing dirt, bugs, and whatever about Microchip. I'm an SX user and I publish their bugs too. Ubicom (Scenix) just donated some nice demo boards for an SXList.com contest and they have helped out here and there in the set up of that site / techref section. I've been clear from the beginning that I support SX chips (I like them.... more speed...) but as they are PIC clones and code from the SX can be used in the PICs with a bit of conversion or macroing, I don't see a problem. Anyway it is MY site and not really related to the PICList so I'll do what the hell I want with it. I would like to sell advertising on massmind.org and maybe sxlist.com or even piclist.com if Jory and no-one else minded. It would help to offset the cost, and if it did well enough, I would drop consulting and spend my entire day improving the site. I love it. Really, I do. But I would be very nervous about the relationship with the sponsor. I'd have to be absolutely sure that there would be NO influence. I'm FRIED that anyone would think I was using the PICList to get rich. There is an amazing amount of excellent advice and code posted to the PICList. Go back to 1995 or 6 in the archives (before I was an admin) and look at how many flame wars, rude B.S. and unmarked off topics there were. Tjaart is gone, Wagner is gone... how may others? . John Payson is gone. (Some F**K flamed him about a religious poem he posted in honor of his wife after she DIED) http://www.piclist.com/techref/postbot.asp?by=thread&id=%25RIP+Dawn+Elizabet h+Payson%25 Keeping the people who really make the list tick on the list and feeling good about it has been my number one job. We just don't have OT flames. Scott is back. Andrew is back. The problem with the list is that it is very hard to FIND the excellent answers, code, etc.. that have been posted. I started by trying to collect the best and most FAQ so that we didn't have to keep telling newbies about not setting the code protect bit, et all and so that the GEMs would be organized in one place. I have always credited authors with whatever code or information I've placed on the sites and I always link to their sites if they are in business. Ask them how many referrals they get from piclist.com? I've spend butt loads of time organizing and improving the site and NIK and now one or two other people are the only ones who have actually helped with it. Having said that, I was going to send a post to ALL: today saying that the Archive is now loaded all the way back to December of 1993 which is the first PICList post ever, as far as I know. It also does keyword highlighting on the results. Couple of bug fixes. Still damn quick. Oh well. --- James Newton (PICList Admin #3) mailto:jamesnewton@piclist.com 1-619-652-0593 PIC/PICList FAQ: http://www.piclist.com or .org -----Original Message----- From: pic microcontroller discussion list [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU]On Behalf Of Dan Michaels Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 11:50 To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Subject: Re: [EE]: Allocation site? Importance: Low James Newton wrote: > >(And boy do I wish more people would do things like that... I get tired of >being the only person updating the site.) > Am I wrong, or are you not also the guy getting rich off of it? [you will recall when I asked what your advertising rates were recently - ie, last week - you said you were going to raise them, as piclist was getting so popular - care to publish the books?? - ;)]. - danM -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads