> > > +24 > > | > > Load > > | > > C > > / > >PIC-R--B > > \ > > E > > | > > GND > > > >Then the transisor won't be saturated because the 5V output from the PIC > >isn't high enough relative to the collector voltage. > > Actually this is the best way to do it. From base to emitter there's a > diode junction(0.6 volt) and as long as you have current flowing through > it, the transistor will conduct collector-emitter. Well this would be ideal simply because it takes the least amount of components. I guess the question I'm still trying to resolve is how to figure out how much current must I provide the base in order for the transisor to saturate. Specifically I have a 1K resistor for R which was providing 12 ma of base current in the original RS-232 config. If I drop the voltage to 5V it'll be 5ma (or thereabouts because of the 0.6V BE diode drop). What determines if that's enough current to cause saturation. And unfortunately I don't have time to study Horowitz and Hill ;-) > > > >Now Bob Blick has an HBridge motor drive that uses a darlington configuration > >with no pullup between the high voltage and the base of the drive transistor. > > Look at the lead-in page to the schematic, I've shown the internal > schematic of the darlington transistors I used. They have built-in > pinch-off resistors and also collector-emitter diodes, saves external parts. I see how the integrated parts help. Maybe I'll start using those TIP parts. BAJ -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads