I am having trouble programming the 12c508a with my ITU programmer. I am using P16pro and it works fine with 16c84's and a picstic. I wired the socket for the 12c508a as follows: Vdd 1 Vpp 4 Vss 8 Clk 6 Data 7 The programmers header (starting from the pin closest to the middle of the board) 1 Vss 2 Vpp 3 Vdd 4 Clock 5 Data Any help is greatly appreciated. Regards, Richard Hughes __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu