On Tue, 6 Feb 2001 12:11:29 +1100, you wrote: >Bob Ammerman wrote: >> >> Roman, >> >> You've got the right idea of doing your development on the 16F84 (or = even >> better an 16F87x with ICD, but I digress). >> >> On my first 12C project I did just this -- started with MPSIM, then a = 16F84, >> and by the time I burned the 12C it was _perfect_ the first time. >> >> I'm afraid you're gonna just have to buy a few JW's and an eraser (a = 1KW >> tanning bed is probably the wrong intensitity and wavelength, and a = small >> 'pocket' eraser will pay for itself in reduced power consumption and >> convenience very quickly. > > >Thanks Bob, any sources for a cheap eraser? I >can build one if the light source is not critical. >And how long do they take to erase normally? You need a germicidal lamp, not a 'black light' or insect zapper tube. The most common ones look like normal slimline (4/6/8 watt 6,9,12" I think ) fluorescent tubes, but they are transparent (no phosphor), and can be driven with the same type of ballast. You MUST use a light-proof enclosure with an interlock as the UV can cause eye and skin damage. Erase times are typically 5-10 mins. Another type of bulb (don't know if it's still made) is the Philips TUV, which needs no ballast. =20 The easiest (but probably not cheapest) source is often as 'spares' for commercial UV erasers. >Last question (I promise!) if using the internal >4MHz osc on the OTP parts, does it need calibrating >or what range freq are they in? There is a calibration value programmed into OTP parts, which you need to load into the OSCCAL reg by putting MOVWF OSCCAL at address 0.=20 This brings the osc to within about 5% of 4MHz (check datasheet for tolerance) -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads