> Thanks Bob, any sources for a cheap eraser? I > can build one if the light source is not critical. > And how long do they take to erase normally? I have a Datarase II, which can erase 4 chips in 20 minutes. I sorta remember that I got it from Jameco for well under $100. > Last question (I promise!) if using the internal > 4MHz osc on the OTP parts, does it need calibrating > or what range freq are they in? The W register gets loaded with the factory-determined calibration values right before your code starts executing. You can then write W to OSCAL if you wish. I sorta remember they actually write a MOVLW into the last program memory location, then start execution there. Whatever, this is all spelled out nicely in the data sheet. ***************************************************************** Olin Lathrop, embedded systems consultant in Devens Massachusetts (978) 772-3129, olin@embedinc.com, http://www.embedinc.com -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads