Peter L. Peres wrote: > > Look, the relay heats up because it and the surrounding wiring will be > passing 12A at about 0.5 ohms total resistance (including board, screw > terminals, and some wire). That's about 6W dissipated. Man you are so far off base! I have a good milliohm meter and I am quite aware of the resistive losses in a relay passing 12 amps! You figures are about 20 to 30 times out of whack. Expect a few milliohms (<20) for any decent quality 20A relay contacts. Get a copy of Ultracad's "pcbtemp.exe" which will help you calculate PCB track resistance for say a 1/4 inch track with solder stripe. Again a few milliohms. Also I would not use screwdown tewrminals I would solder the wires into the board or ont PCB pins. But if you were to include screw down terminals you would also have to allow for them in your thyristor solution so it's not fair to include them as part of the relay losses. > Relays have no > heatsinks Of course not, a 20A relay runs quite cool at 12A and doesn't need a heatsink. I work with relays every week, and they have their place. I think it is bad to turn someone off a relay solution based on false evidence! :o) -Roman PS. Find a relay rated for more than 12A that dissipates 6W and you have found your "relay with a heatsink" ha ha! -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body