> I just had a luminous idea: what if you use a upconverting autotransformer > and a relay to switch it off when the voltage increases enough ? You need > only 3:1 or so and it can be a cheapo audio transformer (about $1.50 in > qty.). A small relay or a VDR can separate the transformer when it is no > longer needed (at higher voltage). > > After all, there is a minimum speed you need to take into account, as the > alternator will drop towards zero (and ugly pulsed waveforms due to > core saturation) as it slows down. I assume that you mean that I use the alternator AC to feed the auto-transformer? If so its not really likely to be viable as the frequency increases with voltage and the range is about as extreme as the voltage range :-) Also the higher voltages need to be stepped down once they get much over target voltage. I have "discovered" the very old truly horrible but incredibly cheap MC34063A. I think Noah used these in the ark to eke out every bit of energy from the storage batteries for below decks lighting. Not current mode but does have a current trip but it appears to ONLY be a high side current trip which is no good when my high side exceeds the chip Vcc max but I can add a 1 transistor current detector to drive it and ..... . It's major advantages are cheap, runs on a few volts minimum, cheap, uses few external components (coz it doesn't do much :-) ), cheap and it's also cheap. That and the UCC3803 seem the two leading challengers,. The MC34063A (and a range of higher current brethren) look rather useful for REALLY cheap and (really) nasty designs where every dollar counts. despite its age its available in DIP and SO packages. Another interesting smps IC is the MC33364 which is cheapish and excellent for low cost offline supplies with very low standby power levels. It uses a mode I hadn't met before which they refer to as "critical conduction" mode. It provides "just in time" switching of the inductor as energy is "drained" - the penalty is variable frequency operation which can be an advantage from an EMI point of view. Not suited to my current project but worth looking at generally Some interesting material and excellent app notes at www.onsemi.com The suspicious close resemblance to Motorola is not coincidental :-) . Russell -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads