Hi guys, My PIC Start Plus stopped working a week back and I decided to construct = a home made programmer for programming 16f877s. I checked the PicList = pages and I could not find a single schematic for a 16f877 programmer ! = almost all the programmers were for 16F84. So, I decided to construct my own programmer. And I set out. I took = David Tait's TOPIC as the reference design. TOPIC uses a LM 317 to get the high voltage (12 to 14 volts as Microchip = says). I want to use a 7812 12 volts regulator instead of a 317. When I checked the output of a 7812 in an existing circuit with a DMM, = it showed 11.9 volts.=20 Now, my question to the experienced gentlemen on PicList is weather I = can program a PIC using 11.9 volts for the VPP (Programming voltage) ? Regards, Jeethu Rao -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads