>I don't think so, remember they didn't have fifos, internal baudrate >gens etc. in those days... All you need is a shiftreg, some clock >dividers and a pretty simple state machine - rather less than even a >4004. I'm sure you could do it with less than a dozen 74TTLs >There was also a Texas Instruments chip that was pin compatible to these. It had >a problem operating at high speed (as in 9600B was high speed) and would lock >up. The system we had these in was connected to a Burroughs machine which ran a >polled network, so in went a timer that reset the chip if there were no polls >received over a certain period.... Then we got some 6402 chips and the problem >was solved properly. Well, I did build my own UART and it took about 10 TTL chips. It had a bug, too, because I jumped from the parity bit to the stop bit without waiting. The state machine was just a counter. The baud rate was done with a 555 and a 10-turn pot. It was NOT stable but I could "tune" it each time until it worked. I had seen these all-in-one chips called "UART"s at swap meets but they were rare and I didn't get to the swap meets all that often. Finally I decided to get one (like $6) and so made myself a pc board and assembled the thing. It worked, too. Until one day I got +5 across one of the outputs and then, no more chip! I was sunk. I'd ruined my board. Lo and behold, a friend got me some datasheets for this chip and we discovered, as Alan said, that it (the TI 6011) was indeed pin-for-pin compatible to the AY-5-1013. I was saved! I still have all that stuff. One day I'll get a digital camera and... Barry -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.