go for ethanol/methanol. use car radiator for distillation, pic for temperature and flow regulation. get your neighbors yard fruit for feedstock. you dont want to crack your own crude, the air board, water board, water quality control board, epa, and your local sewer district will be waiting in your driveway. you can claim to be a winery of some kind. alice > Sadly, there is a reason why Gasoline and Natural gas are the fuels of > choice... > > ...just a lot safer. Same for alcohol (unless mixed with gas), solar steam > (high pressure, temperature), flywheels (decomposition, bearing failure), > and most electric battery designs (leaking acid, hydrogen production on > short circuit) etc.... > > Anybody got info on buying crude and cracking it at home? > > --- > James Newton (PICList Admin +ACM-3) > mailto:jamesnewton+AEA-piclist.com 1-619-652-0593 > PIC/PICList FAQ: http://www.piclist.com or .org > > -----Original Message----- > From: pic microcontroller discussion list > +AFs-mailto:PICLIST+AEA-MITVMA.MIT.EDU+AF0-On Behalf Of Lawrence Lile > Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 12:51 > To: PICLIST+AEA-MITVMA.MIT.EDU > Subject: Re: +AFs-PICLIST+AF0- +AFs-OT+AF0-: Hydrogen - making,storage,burning > > > I have one comment: > > BOOOOOOOOOM+ACE- > > I knew a Dairy farmer about 15 years ago that was experimenting with methane > gas on a pretty big scale. He had four big methane digesters in his barn, > each digester was about 6 feet in diameter and 15 feet long. A really > impressive rig. Outside the barn he had a generator running on methane, and > in the 2nd floor of the barn he had methane storage, which consisted of > several large waterbed matresses filled with the gas, all fed with plastic > tubing. +AFs-don't try this at home+AF0- I toured it, it was a really impressive > setup. He generated electricity for his farm, ran his cooking stove on > methane, and cows provided the input to the digesters (he had a dairy farm). > He didn't use any grid power at all. the place was a model of energy > conservation technologies, with solar water heat, greenhouse attached to the > main house, ram pumps providing pressurized water, some solar electric on > the house, and so on. It was a really mind blowing tour. > > One day, he came back to the farm, and the methane barn was GONE. Not just > burned up, not just exploded, but simply GONE. I saw the rubble of what was > left, it was a lot more impressive than the setup, due to its short height > and wide width. There were a few twisted shards of metal sticking out of > the ground, some concrete slabs where the foundation was, and I think one of > the tanks was still sitting a few yards away. The rest of the setup was > just unrecognizable scrap metal, laying mostly not very near the barn used > to be. > +ADw-SNIP+AD4- > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics > (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics > > > -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics