> He as asked me to build him something > that can be used to trace the pipes. How about sound pulses instead of steady waves, then measure the delay from emitter to various locations to get some idea of pipe distance. Reflections from the main manifold should come later than the original ping. This might not work perfectly, but would hopefully cut down the number of cases that require manual tracing. ***************************************************************** Olin Lathrop, embedded systems consultant in Devens Massachusetts (978) 772-3129, olin@embedinc.com, http://www.embedinc.com -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body