Possibly you could wrap pipe heaters around a section of the pipe at the beginning and look for a temperature increase at the other end of the pipe. The oil would lose most of its heat as it travelled, but there might be a temperature increased of a degree or so at the end if the oil was heated enough at the beginning. This could be detected with a thermistor in a Wheatsone bridge, amplified by an opamp and fed to a PIC ADC input (what else?). Even a fraction of a degree temperature increase could easily be detected. -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body