Peter L. Peres wrote: > > You can save on transistors and switchoff logic by using a capacitance > multiplier with a single transistor. This saves a PIC pin (required to > hold the power on) (I suspect you are using a 8-pin PIC). The required > capacitor will be small, too. Very clever! I had thought of a way to get the PIC to pulse a line capacitor coupled to the transistor, to give a turn on period and get rid of the bias problems when just using one transistor for the power. Your way is better, and has less parts count and much simpler. What about getting rid of the transistor all together, just charging a large cap with the button, which then takes X time to discharge powering the zener reg and PIC?? Assuming the PIC draws regular amount of current it would give predictable time to go down. Hmm. Maybe battery voltage could cause problems as battery starts getting flat?.. But this would be even simpler. :o) -Roman -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics