HI i've never used a pic and i could use a suggestion from anyone on which i need to get i need it to have about 14 I/O lines and a serial port that i can connect to a sound module kit to control the sound module what do you think? can i have a serial I/O and the actual lines to go directly into other circuits. thanks so much for your help.. :-) -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.