You can "Do the Dew" without resistive sensors. A clean glass plate is a specular reflector, unless covered with dew (or dirt). Then it becomes a diffuse reflector. A diffuse reflector scatters light in all directions (like paper). A tight IR beam can be arrainged to bounce off the glass, and miss the target, unless there is something on the glass. -- Where's dave? http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/find.cgi?kc6ete-9 -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.