>I was lucky to get those - guy the same day bought the whole >lot they had in stock to make helmet lamps for cavers and >visitors to the glow-worm grottos One of my work colleagues here in the UK does this as well, though only for himself. He also uses them on his pushbike - provides enough light around dark English country lanes to stop you from running into a hedge or off the road. He tends to use little switch mode regulators from Maxim to up the voltage so he can run them of a single AA battery. He has a small flashlight that he has mounted 3 LEDs in instead of the single bulb. The light is brighter than the bulb, and the battery draw lower! -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.