> Aren't those white leds great? I've just made a 1/2 dozen 3mm torches for members of a black powder club (that's guns, y'know, muskets, bang bang) to poke down the barrels for inspecting wear'n'tear. Pitting and erosion is a problem and something to look out for if you're buying a musket I was lucky to get those - guy the same day bought the whole lot they had in stock to make helmet lamps for cavers and visitors to the glow-worm grottos But we digress...... -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.