Jinx wrote: > On a smaller scale I picked up a new 3V torch > a few months ago and the bulb lasted about a minute. Only rated > for 2.4V, thanks very much Mr Manufacturer. Nice and bright it > was though ;-) Put 3 white LEDs in, almost as good Aren't those white leds great? We use the 6000mcd ones, mount on a stick (piece of stiff bendable wire) and a NiCd battery. We have two in the workshops, great for poking down in the guts of something and putting a *lot* of light on a tiny part. Good for reading tiny part numbers without removing the part, and inspecting solder connections in places the 30x micrscope won't fit. Darn, now I'm giving away all our secrets! ;o) -Roman -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.