>But would they still blow on turn-on ? Quite happy with a 60W spot >and it's not too hot. Just fed up replacing the damn things The high efficiency bulbs are actually a fluorescent lamp of some sort with either a small choke or electronic ballast. The latter are the higher efficiency units. As I understand it the electronic ballast is done as a switch mode power supply, so the lamp is driven with high frequency and you do not get the flicker sometimes associated with fluorescent lamps. The ones with a choke in them are a lower efficiency then the electronic ones as the ballast generates some heat. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.