> How about an NTC thermistor > whether you could find a suitable thermistor Aye. The bulb still needs around 60W > Alternatively you can get an opto isolators with built in zero crossing > detection and relatively high power triac outputs. Might be able to > rig one of these up to ensure your lamps always get switched on at > the zero crossing point. Got some MOC3041's left over from a job. That would be the non- s/w solution to zero crossing - but zero crossing needs to be done only once, at turn-on. After that the bulb can shine on unimpeded like a good'un. Ideally start at the zero-cross and ramp up to a V slightly lower than full mains There's a technique used in display matrices of pre-heating filaments by giving them a quick flick of power for bits of a few cycles. I wonder if this would extend bulb life by alleviating any thermal shock or is this getting too geeky ? -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.