>good idea, nuke them with microwaves I was not suggesting worm wieners. Just a 2450MHz oscillator running 10-50 mW off a regulated PSU and a direct rectifying fieldstrength meter a few inches away, perhaps with a 1N23 or such, with earth in between... one could make this differential and have a dried earth probe between the emitter and another reference detector. This looks like three teflon pipes stuck about 2" from each other 5" into the ground, in a line. Or at least I'd try it that way. With a sealed plastic bag or box of dried earth between 2 of them. I think. ;-) Peter -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body