>My point exactly. Somehow society has come to believe that insurance >companies (for example) are fair targets for all kinds of abuse (ie: fraud). >Again, an insurance company is really its shareholders and employees, and >policyholders. When an insurance company is ripped off at least one of the >above classes of _people_ are hurt. I take the other view. Somehow insurance companies have come to believe that their shareholders are more important than human life. When an insurance company makes a change that increases their profit a tiny percentage, people die. Again let me say that I do not advocate fraud or theft, but I will not play policeman for multinational corporations. They wouldn't do it for me. I'll look out for myself and for people on the piclist, that's where my priorities are. If one of you is chipping Playstations it doesn't register on my radar screen. It's like driving 5 mph over the speed limit. I've got better ways to spend my time than try to cure all the world's ills. Also that person driving over the speed limit might turn out to be a volunteer fireman driving to the station in order to respond to a fire. Posting cracks for Pic'N'Poke, on the other hand, is definitely a big no-no in my book, and I'd be all over someone who did that. Cheerful regards, Bob Blick -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.