So far one person suggested offline that I use a ramped tone, starting low and going high, and another suggested a cutoff of 2000 hz. Not bad suggestions. A little research showed that 10% of the US population suffers some form of hearing loss. That's a lot of folks! " The disorder (high frequency hearing loss) occurs in about 25% of people ages 65 to 75 years old and in 50% of those over age 75." webMD.com 440 HZ is middle A, sounds like a low tone to my ear, and is on the low end of what a piezo can do. 500 - 2000 hz is probably that widest range that you can practically play with a piezo, and stay below the 2000 hz cutoff. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads