thanks, but, where can I take a look to this startup IDC package ? and is it possible that I build it myself. I mean, sometimes they include in the boards some small pic controller so that the PC talks with it and the firmware in the PIC is protected :( thus, you can not build it yourself. i do think that the ICD is only a serial MAX232 connected to the RB6-7 but I am not sure if this is so simple ... david ----- Original Message ----- From: K|bek Tony To: Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [PIC]: Hardware for using MPLAB-ICD Hi, David Gomez wrote: >as far as i concern MPLAB supports this functionalities with teh MPLAB-ICD. The >problem is that I have not found any >document talking about what to do. What kind of hardware design should I use in order >to debug my PIC, and exactly how is it >gonna work ? Do I need any extra MCU for controlling the debuging or the only hardeard >is a RS-232 controller connected to RB6-7 and the MPLAB-ICD makes >everything. > >Can you tell me what to do or refer me to any extra docu ???? Well I must say that the ICD really is a wonderful thing, me to 'comming from' 16F84 and moving upto the 16F87x series. It's worth the small cost many times over. Just starting to use an brand new ICE2000 and and still amazed how much the ICD was capable of compared to the ICE2000, yes the ICE2000 if much more powerful, but still the ICD only cost about an 10th of it. But to get back to your questions, Basically you need the ICD and thats it :), well almost, myself I built an small board with , of a socket for an 16F874 ( the only one i've used ) ,test pins for each pic pin, an socket for an crystal( or oscillator) of choice, an connector for the ICD ( RJ45 ? ), some led's for power etc., this small board has pins in parallel going down to be inserted in test/dev/bread-borad of choice. Apart from that you basically only need the icd, also which if i recall correctly the icd actually comes with an proto-board included with an 16F87x processor. So basically you dont need anything more than the icd package to get started. /Tony Tony K|bek, Flintab AB 222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222 E-mail: tony.kubek@flintab.com 222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222 -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads