Sure, the ground plane is great, once you know the trick. Draw a polygon (not a rectangle) around the perimeter of the area you wish to be the ground plane. Click the Name icon, and change the name of the rectangle to GND. Once you recalculate the ratsnest, all GND connected pins will automatically connect to the filled ground plane. Hope that helps. -- Mitch -----Original Message----- From: pic microcontroller discussion list [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU]On Behalf Of Sean H. Breheny Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 12:47 AM To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Subject: [EE]:Schematic/Board Layout Hi all, Right now, I'm struggling through using Eagle Light to lay out a small board. I have done a fair amount of PCB layout before, but I have always just drawn the schematic on paper and then used a manual layout program (EasyTrax). However, I have found that I usually end up not drawing the schematic on the computer, so I don't have it (in a file) when people ask for it. So, this time, I decided to force myself to use a real layout program. Eagle Light is truly painful. For one thing, I have to sort through an endless number of components (with no description other than a cryptic part number) to find one that fits a simple ceramic capacitor or resistor. Secondly, it doesn't seem to have a provision to automatically provide a ground plane on a 2 layer board (i.e., I can't seem to just place ground symbols on the schematic and have it recognize that they should all connect to an area filled in with copper). Am I just not giving it enough of a chance, or is it a valid observation that Eagle has problems? If so, what would you recommend in the way of cheap/free schematic/layout programs? Thanks, Sean -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu