>I guess its not so much the idea of someone wanting free engineering but >rather to put so many restrictions on it really makes it look odd. The demo board has lots of I/O possibilities on it so that it's USEFUL for those who attempt it. I know it sounds weird that somebody would be so altruistic, but that's where I'm coming from. I don't listen to MP3's (I don't even turn on my car radio most of the time), I'm doing USB on a different setup, and I have no need any more for an IDE interface. >Of course C is perferred as its more easily 'ported', but again $850 for a >compiler???? Most people out there have freebee assemblers. Some of us need to make a living doing this, though. The $500 (I bought it when it was introduced) was a fantastic investment (I bought it while still self-employed). Andy -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.