You need to specify what additional hardware is acceptable. While you can certainly do it with the processor alone, addition of a single dot clocked shift register greatly reduces overhead. Sure, it's then not pure software but if the aim is to be purist rather than allow a $0.20 part you may have to also exclude any external resonator and run with the Scenix internal oscillator (at 4 MHz). After all, the resonator costs rather more than the glue logic needed for a dot clock and shift register. Then we'll see how it compares to a PIC :-). >Ok, its time for us Scenix users to put this PIC video thing to rest... We >alone have the speed required in a low cost micro controller to really make >it happen! While we are on the "we alone have ..." thought, look at the Clive "I can do magic" Sinclair ZX80 which used an ancient and venerable (and venerated?) Z80 plus a shift register to work video magic. It also managed to pretend to be a "full" computer during the flyback period. The CISC set-and-forget block move instruction has it's place :-). I'm sure the Scenix would be hard to beat in this application using a true single chip solution but it does wilt rather on other tasks in the face of some of the competition. Russell McMahon -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.