A 'caveat' might be in order regarding wide-eyed optimism and the programmabilty of the Cybiko - While *there is* an SDK complete with Compiler and an Assembler - it is not completely clear (at least in mind) just what the Cybiko "executes" in terms of actual "program code". It appears, after several days of reading and study that the Cybiko executes it's own brand of p-code (pseudo code) produced by the 'C' Compiler. I am unclear at this point what the *exact* purpose of the 'assembler' is ... Also - the CPU used in the Cybiko according to Cybico is from the Hitachi H8S family, and according to one website is a H8S /2246 which according to the data sheet from Hitachi means it contains 128 K bytes of ROM. Ugh ... I have bought one - it's cute, so far it keeps accurate time and the calendar/alarm clock feature works but battery life (*maybe* it's just mine) seems very short - there are only two 700 mAH cells that power this thing and who knows how much 'sleep' this thing gets between executing p-code ... I have also been unsuccessful in determing how the serial port is accessed on the Cybiko - my findings at this very minute after some limited e-mail correspondence and posting on Cybiko's board is that it CAN'T be programmed and that the Cybiko's os known as CyOS has total control. There are a lot of 'file control calls' and the Cybiko operates on I/O with the 'streams' concept in play - just *maybe* there is a reserved word to address serial I/O and a corresponding *secret* data structure that allows the SCI ports (serial ports) on the Hitachi H8S to be set up as desired. In searching the web for additional information I came across what seems to be an *older* Cybiko developers web site that offers just a few more technical details - albeit perhaps older and slightly non-applicable info on the Cybiko device: http://204.176.70.215/devsarea.asp You will also find a Cybiko 'simulator' that requires MS VC 6.0 at the above site - one can compile code, debug the logic on the PC before 'hitting the actual target'. They (Cybiko, the company) also seems to have used some development tools from 'Cygnus' - I have not explored this aspect ... I would *love* to hear from someone with who has dug into this deeper than I have! Jim jvpoll@dallas.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Carr" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2000 12:34 PM Subject: Re: [EE]: Cybiko - Inexpensive Terminal/wireless network? > > After looking at the web site and grabbing my credit card, I > > realised it's > > only sold in the US :o( > > Wonder if they are going to be marketing it in Europe etc? I guess CE > > marking etc might be difficult/expensive. > > Not to mention the fact that the beasty uses 900MHz... *Not* going to be > popular in Europe as is. > Actually chaps it could be available in the UK!!! HSBC (A UK Bank for those not in the UK) have a newsletter that is sent out to their student customers and that has a competition to win 4 of these beasties. There should be no problems manufacturing the units to meet European requirements i.e. 869MHz so the only question is where are they available from. The newsletter is no help as it only refers to the .com website. Toys R Us? They could be grey imports but a respectable company like a Bank would get involved in shady practices, would it :-) Anyone out evaluating toys for Christmas noticed them ? Regards Chris -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads