I'm interested in ICSP'ing some 16c6x and 16c7x parts in production. I would like to program serial number, main code, etc in an open environment such as MS C++ so that an operator can program & verify then move on to NI-DAQ and check the functional operation of the circuit. Anybody have recommendations for programmers (other than Promate II) that are easy to work with? TIA, Tim Crist -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads