Roman Black wrote: Guys, a while back I needed some robotics parts and asked around a few local repairers for old (dead) fax machines. With a couple of phone calls I got about 10 old faxes that had been traded in. These are junk and most shops have to pay $$ to dispose of them. Most (thermal paper) faxes use two stepper motors, one for feed-in and one for feed-out of the paper. 7 of the ten faxes were like this. The motors are usually exactly the same part, and commonly have attached gearing of 7:1, with 48 step stepper motors, six wire unipolar at 12v or 48v. So you get a matched pair of motors from almost every fax you strip. I used a matched pair of motor-gearbox for a small robot experiment, a 48 step motor with 7:1 gearing is just about perfect to attach a wheel to and put them in your robot. Speed is about 1 to 2 inches/sec depending on wheel size. And torque is quite good, surprisingly. If you are thinking of starting from scratch don't rule out the fax motor option. :o) PS. Faxes also have good modular switchmode supplies, stepper control chips, 1x16 or 2x16 LCD hitachi displays, and about 40 tiny leds for the reader. And lots of matched cogs/shafts etc. Well worth stripping if you want to play with robotics. -Roman -- Thanks a lot Roman! That's a very useful piece of information. Next time I visit a junk shop, I will specifically look for a fax machine which seems to have a wealth of parts for a robotics enthusiast. Previously, I used to look for only junk printers and floppy drives! Bala -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu