I don't want to run a 4MHz chip at 20MHz. But if I bought 4MHz chips that are actually 20MHz chips I would like to KNOW. :o) I think it's unlikely that chips that have actually been through the testing procedure for 20MHz parts would be (re)marked as 4MHz parts. What IS likely is that long after a production line / die-shrunk design is producing chips that will ALL run at 20MHz, only some of them will go through the testing regime, and the rest will get labeled as 4MHz... BillW -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! use mailto:listserv@mitvma.mit.edu?body=SET%20PICList%20DIGEST