How about 0. Test at 4 MHz 1. Mark as 4 MHz part or bin it. 2. Sell it. Unless, if short of 20MHz part, then test at 20MHz. If pass, mark accordingly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dwayne Reid" To: Sent: Monday, November 06, 2000 4:50 PM Subject: Re: [PIC]: 16F84A - 4MHz or 20MHz? > At 12:08 AM 11/7/00 +1100, Roman Black wrote: > > >But don't you want to KNOW?? I have bought a number of -10P and > >-4P PICs, and I really would like to know if I got what I paid for > >or if I got something else. > > > >I don't want to run a 4MHz chip at 20MHz. But if I bought 4MHz chips > >that are actually 20MHz chips I would like to KNOW. :o) > >-Roman > > Actually, I think that you are looking at it backwards. I'm pretty sure > that testing goes something like this: > > Test to 20 MHz - those that r l , mark as such. > Test to 4 MHz - those that pass, mark as such. > Toss the rest. > > When they have more than enough 20 MHz parts sitting in inventory, skip > step #1 above. > > So you have 2 possible choices: your 4 MHz parts either failed 20 MHz > testing in some fashion *or* your 4 MHz parts were never tested above 4 MHz. > > My understanding from speaking with the FAEs is that they sell far more 4 > MHz parts than 20 MHz parts and that the majority of 4 MHz parts might well > work at speeds faster than what is stamped on the package. But you would > never find me shipping product that contains an over-clocked PIC. > > Maybe I'm weird, but I tend to purchase the fastest parts available for > development work and prototypes and re-use those parts over and over > again. Its money well spent. If I need to go fast, I can and do. But > once I get the project to the final stages, I try to re-work things so that > a 4 MHz part works. I can think of only 2 projects that I've been involved > with that needed to ship with fast parts - everything else uses 4 MHz parts. > > dwayne > > > > > > Dwayne Reid > Trinity Electronics Systems Ltd Edmonton, AB, CANADA > (780) 489-3199 voice (780) 487-6397 fax > > Celebrating 16 years of Engineering Innovation (1984 - 2000) > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > Do NOT send unsolicited commercial email to this email address. > This message neither grants consent to receive unsolicited > commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email. > > -- > http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! > use mailto:listserv@mitvma.mit.edu?body=SET%20PICList%20DIGEST > > > > > -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! use mailto:listserv@mitvma.mit.edu?body=SET%20PICList%20DIGEST