How about this... The "buttons" are double-pole switches. the first pole simply connects a moderate value resistor across the two wires which would normally be an open circuit.) This gives you something not much more complicated than the current situation, nearly failsafe, and no worse than the current scheme at indicating trouble. Use the second pole of your switch to trigger a micro (PIC) to send a signal superimposed upon the wires' DC level (as exists due to the resistor across the line.) This gives you more specific location information, at a higher potential rate of failure. BillW -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: "[PIC]:","[SX]:","[AVR]:" =uP ONLY! "[EE]:","[OT]:" =Other "[BUY]:","[AD]:" =Ads