I'll stick my neck out here and say that if someone paid me to do it I could *** certainly *** produce a device that generated electrical power from walking. I have thought about this a fair bit when I was doing a moderate amount of walking some while ago. Not a normal mode of longer distance locomotion for me usually (regrettably). The trouble with Piezo, as Scott has noted, is that the short distances involved mean that the forces involved must be multiplied in some manner to undesirably high levels. This can be achieved by having a very high deceleration somewhere in the system but this is generally not desirable when this is a by-product of walking. Ideally you want to deliver the power as continually as possible across the working "stroke". Users may :-) object to platform shoes which telescope to the ground at all times as you walk, so you are limited to doing something in the deceleration phase as the foot strikes the ground. A degree of "sponginess" may be acceptable but if this gets too noticeable the user will quite rightly object. If I wanted to do this quickly and simply to achieve "some" power I would probably first look at a mechanical sprung system using rare-earth magnets and a fairly conventional alternator arrangement. This could be built to be quite thin and would certainly be able to be built into a shoe heel. A shoe sole would be harder. End result could probably feel like an xxx-air-sole but the "air" feeling would be the alternator magnetics. I would imagine that a fair proportion of a watt could be achieved "easily" Consider the effort taken to "pump" the hand operated alternator torches that one cam buy and translate this into more intermittent but higher force pulses. While you would not do this, imagine strapping such a torch on a frame on you shoe so that the lever was operated as you walked. - Would it work? - of course. - Would you feel the forces involved? - hardly, if mounted correctly. - Could this be translated into a much more professional system? - yes. Russell McMahon _____________________________ What can one man* do? Help the hungry at no cost to yourself! at http://www.thehungersite.com/ (* - or woman, child or internet enabled intelligent entity :-)) From other worlds: www.changingourworld.com www.easttimor.com www.sudan.com From: Dr. Chris Kirtley >With respect, there's a lot of speculation about power generation from >walking, but there's nothing out there that works. > >Even Bayliss mechanical method seems to be giving disappointing results. > >I'd love to be corrected, but I get a bit fed up with everyone telling >me that it's possible when it ain't! -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu