No need to point the antenna: point the boat! Radio is not my specialty, but... Transmit on a known schedule. Transmit highly redundant data. Look at some of the techniques used to pull usable signals out of the noise on deep space probes. I would expect that a few watts would get you where you need to go. Bob Ammerman RAm Systems (contract development of high performance, high function, low-level software) ----- Original Message ----- From: M. Adam Davis To: Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 4:04 PM Subject: Re: [OT]: Long range position feedback anyone ? > As this is quite an ambitious project, I would suggest two things: > > Invite people from the ham groups to participate > Invite corporations to participate and donate > > While this would involve your time and energy, your returns would be greater > than what you put into your efforts in these two areas. > > In order to have a long distance transmission, you go as low in frequency as you > can (given antenna limitations), and you get as highly sensitive of a receiver > as you can. > > If you want to increase project complexity, you can also get and use a compass > module to give you the direction you are currently pointing in. Have an array > of antennas which are set up to cover 60 to 90 degrees, and use only one > antenna, pointing towards the USA, or the two antennas pointing east and west. > This would give you a longer distance transmission. > > -Adam > > Tobie Horswill wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I know close to nothing regarding wireless transmission such as radio, > > packet, satellite and the like but I was wondering if there would be an > > economic way for an autonomous vehicle to send it's position back home ? The > > vehicle is a solar powered boat already equipped with a GPS receiver used > > for navigation and it would be a piece of cake to add a daily routine to the > > PIC for uploading this information to some RF stage. Here is the catch : the > > boat can be anywhere in the middle of the Atlantic ocean and obviously has > > very little power available (in fact barely enough to keep it moving). The > > boat could stop while it transmits to save power and wait for it's batteries > > to recharge before going on, that's not a problem. The required bandwidth is > > minimal and only a few bytes would be sent daily. The received data would be > > used to update the boat's daily position on a Web site. At this point, I'm > > only looking for one-way transmission, nothing would get sent back to the > > boat even though that would be cool ... > > > > I was thinking of something like the transmiters they put in Tuna fish > > to track their migration habits. Any idea who makes these things and how > > they work ? Is direct ground to ground transmission possible accross the > > Atlantic with such little power available ? Is satellite the only way to go > > ? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Tobie Horswill > > Ex Machina, Quibec (Quibec) CAN > > thorswil@hotmail.com > > > > -- > > http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: > > "[PIC]:","[SX]:","[AVR]:" =uP ONLY! "[EE]:","[OT]:" =Other "[BUY]:","[AD]:" =Ads > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: > "[PIC]:","[SX]:","[AVR]:" =uP ONLY! "[EE]:","[OT]:" =Other "[BUY]:","[AD]:" =Ads > > > > -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: "[PIC]:","[SX]:","[AVR]:" =uP ONLY! "[EE]:","[OT]:" =Other "[BUY]:","[AD]:" =Ads