What is your power budget on the boat (ie: watt-hours per day or some such units of measure). Bob Ammerman RAm Systems (contract development of high performance, high function, low-level software) ----- Original Message ----- From: Don Hyde To: Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 3:41 PM Subject: Re: [OT]: Long range position feedback anyone ? > I for one, think this is a super-cool project. > > I've been waiting for the ham radio types to come in, who know more about > the radio side, and especially what is legal. For that kind of range, you > need either a short-wave radio that will skip, or a transmitter that can > talk to a satellite. > > For the short-wave approach, the ham guys might know how you can legally > have a remote-operated transmitter off in international waters operating on > a short-wave ham band. If you put it up using a standard modulation scheme > and publish its frequency and transmission schedule, you can probably get a > lot of help in receiving the reports, with receivers scattered about both > sides of the ocean. > > It will take a few watts to push a signal across the ocean, but the message > need only be a few milliseconds long. 50 bytes at 1200 baud is 417 > milliseconds. You should be able to use less than 50 bytes, and possibly a > higher bit rate as well. I would run the transmitter from a bank of low-esr > capacitors that were charged up from whatever power supply you're using for > motors, etc. If it transmits, say, every 4 hours, and has a 50% probability > of being received each time, then you will get an average of three position > reports per day. The probability of getting them all goes way up if you > have 10 receivers at different positions. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Tobie Horswill [mailto:thorswil@EXMACHINA.QC.CA] > > Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 1:15 PM > > To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU > > Subject: Re: [OT]: Long range position feedback anyone ? > > > > > > Hi Roman, > > > > Well actualy, the boat is still in the making ... I'm > > building it just > > because I like the idea of a totally closed and autonomous > > system, I don't > > have the money to travel and the "hi-tech message in a bottle" idea is > > something I've been thinking of for some time. The boat should start > > somewhere off the Canadian east cost and head for France, > > Spain or Portugal > > and then come back. It'll be saving daily position logs to > > EEPROM so I can > > plot it's course but still, I'd like to have a real-time > > position feedback > > if possible ... And no, I don't do this often, this is the > > first time. :-) > > > > Regards, > > > > Tobie Horswill > > thorswil@hotmail.com > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Roman Black" > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 1:53 PM > > Subject: Re: [OT]: Long range position feedback anyone ? > > > > > > > Hi Tobie, > > > > > > I'm fascinated, why do you have a little boat roaming around > > > the middle of the atlantic ocean? Do you do this often? :o) > > > -Roman > > > > > > > -- > > http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: > > "[PIC]:","[SX]:","[AVR]:" =uP ONLY! "[EE]:","[OT]:" =Other > > "[BUY]:","[AD]:" =Ads > > > > > > > > > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: > "[PIC]:","[SX]:","[AVR]:" =uP ONLY! "[EE]:","[OT]:" =Other "[BUY]:","[AD]:" =Ads > > > > -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: "[PIC]:","[SX]:","[AVR]:" =uP ONLY! "[EE]:","[OT]:" =Other "[BUY]:","[AD]:" =Ads