>I before E except after C, and in "weird". Use the German pronunciation instead - "when two vowels go walking, the last one does the talking." Then that word sounds like "wired" and that's more PIC-related. Andy -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! use mailto:listserv@mitvma.mit.edu?body=SET%20PICList%20DIGEST