I hope you and other MSP430 users join and help out. I've only been working with the part for a couple of weeks but I'm already very impressed and somewhat intimidated, frankly; the PICLIST is invaluable for getting over the complexity hurdles within Mchips parts, and no matter how nice a part it is the MSP430 isn't going anywhere without some developer community! TI is very old-school in that way; I can't figure out how any company can watch Microchip and not learn. Presumably, one of the reason that microchip flash parts are inexpensive compared to their OTPs is that there is a LOT of competition in the "general purpose flash microcontrollers" market. Most of them are "better" in some sense of the word than microchip's flash parts and many are cheaper (assuming you can find some place to buy them.) The PICs have great availability to all types of users, good variety, and they've done the best job on the 8-pin chips (Atmels 8pin chips were pretty funny, at least the first set.) (Microchip deserves some credit for basically INVENTING the low-pin-count micro in the first place, I think.) TI is doing a reasonable job of making tools available for the MSP430, and they're pushing the MSP430 as their general purpose micro (over the TMS370), so there's at least some chance of growing a broad user community. The development tools are being offered at very low prices (At ESC they were showing a $99 (?) jtag programmer for the newer flash parts, and I swear that the QFP (PLCC?) ZIF socket on the thing was worth close to $99. I don't think I've ever seen a company offer "good" (ZIF) low cost development systems for QFP packages :-) One annoying aspect of the MSP430 is low (compared to a PIC) drive capability on the output pins. You can barely drive a normal LED... BillW -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: "[PIC]:","[SX]:","[AVR]:" =uP ONLY! "[EE]:","[OT]:" =Other "[BUY]:","[AD]:" =Ads