At 10:51 AM 10/14/00 -0400, you wrote: > >Ummm, not so sure the current business is such a big issue. >Other PICs draw only about 15 uA running at 32Khz, and I >would imagine the same for '508. Yes, typically 15uA, 23uA max. Which is at least 10-20x more than a dedicated clock chip. It makes a real difference when you are using an inexpensive coin cell of ~60-220mAh and you anticipate long periods of power-off condition. Also, to to get that low a consumption you have to disable the WDT which makes recovery from a severe EMI upset more of an issue, potentially. (Like the customer has to remove and replace the battery or push a hidden reset switch rather than just resetting the time). You could also use a spare port pin to do this (assuming such things exist), say if no valid I2C response is received then reset the clock chip. > Also, Li batteries put out >3v, so ........ Since the PIC doesn't have a built in power switchover circuit, there will also (typically) be a diode drop in series. That seems pretty close to the minimum (guaranteed) operating voltage even with a fresh battery. >You have to get this straight - Echelon reports to all the european >firms, like Philips, Carnivore reports "only" to M$, and they probably >don't care about I2C. Ah, you are probably right. ;-) Best regards, =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Spehro Pefhany --"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com Contributions invited->The AVR-gcc FAQ is at: http://www.bluecollarlinux.com =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: "[PIC]:","[SX]:","[AVR]:" =uP ONLY! "[EE]:","[OT]:" =Other "[BUY]:","[AD]:" =Ads