On Fri, 13 Oct 2000, Bob Ammerman wrote: > If I were building something that: > > 1: I knew was going to be connected _only_ to a PC's serial port. > > 2: Was _very_ cost sensitive > > Then I might consider using the direct-TTL trick. I dunno. I looked at the specs for the 148x and MAX232 type line receivers, and all of them I saw would see 0 and 3.5V as valid RS232 levels, at least as far as they were concerned. It surprised me that even the 1489(88? haven't used one in years) didn't need to see a negative voltage. I seem to recall the cutoff was 0.7V. Has anyone had an actual experience with something that would *not* work with the simple resistor interface, I wonder? I've had them talking to PCs, modems, and terminal servers. Dale --- The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not "Eureka!" (I found it!) but "That's funny ..." -- Isaac Asimov -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu