Me too. I think the general opinion is that it works for one-offs and small stuff, but it may not be wise to depend on it in a large-run commercial product. For the PIC receiving RS232 it seems to work quite well, and I've han no trouble at all. For sending, you'll get a non-compliant signal that *most* RS232 receivers will see but no guarantees. Dale On Fri, 13 Oct 2000, Leo wrote: > I have used the direct connection between PC (EIA RS232) and the PIC as > showed in PBP manual. It works very well. You just take attention on the > polarity. The TTL serial have logical level inverted. > > > Ciao > > > Leo > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Matthieu Baraban" > To: > Sent: Friday, October 13, 2000 11:44 AM > Subject: PIC 16F84 & serial port on a PC > > > > Hello, > > > > I am designing a board that has to exchange some data between a PIC16F84 > > and a serial port on a PC, in both ways. > > This will be done for about 1 minute, every week. > > So, my question is : > > Do I have to use a TTL<->RS232 converter, or can I simply use resistors as > > it is explained sometimes on PIC web pages. > > Could you give me your advices ? > > Thanks a lot, > > Best regards, > > > > Matt. > > > > -- > > http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList > > mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu > > > > > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList > mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu > > > > --- The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not "Eureka!" (I found it!) but "That's funny ..." -- Isaac Asimov -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu