Amateur robotics with orientation towards biological orientation. Well done site. Educational. Good resources. http://beam-online.com/ (And they suggested a way to remove counter-weights from pager motors which is why someone directed me to this site (should any wonder about the disparate range of subjects that I highlight). -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu