I tried to build an Embedded Eathernet system but after a few failues that were caused by my inability to solder surface mount parts correctly, I gave up on it for now. I ended up with one part that LOOKED good, but didn't work when I built a test circuit. Bummer. If someone out there can handle SMD and wants to build one and verify it is operational, I can supply enough parts so you can make one or two for yourself. :-) I am in the US, so US prefered unless there is really cheap non-two month shipping available. Curse you SMD devices.. curse you I say... -- Ian -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.