Jim Newton wrote:
>Actually almost all the pages have each word of the title linked to a
>related page. At the top of the page we are using as an example, the title
>
.......
>Where else would you want to go? ...given that you were reading that page.
>There isn't any "Next" or "Prev" page or even an "Up" or "top" cause that
>page is linked in from at least 4 or 5 places.
>


Ok, I entered techref by clicking on the following link

http://techref.massmind.org/techref/default.asp?from=/techref/idea/&url=../m
icrochip/index.htm

and saw a BIG "MicroChip Technologies" on top of the page. I had no idea
were I actually was. The only thing identifying this as techref was a
PayPal link at the bottom saying I could email money to some guy named
jamesnewton@geocities.com. The only other ID thingie I found was a
link called "massmind.org" which provided a brief intro, and wanted
a password. No place to go from there except click "back". Still no idea
what/where/when/how the site really was.

I finally found a link called PICList 5 down from the top of the "Microchip
Technologies" page that took me to a place that kinda looked like it might
be near the front-door. It was directly "beneath" a link called
"routines/Code Library/..", which is obviously many levels undergnd.

This is all well and good, and a site should be organized
hierarchically as a tree with topic areas you can drill down into,
but engineers are so literal-minded [I learned this from a Dilbert
cartoon - when he was putting out the rat] that they like to know
where there are on the tree. "well I am 'here', and I want to go
over 'there'".

Seems to me, this is a site where if you know what is going on,
then you're ok, but if you don't, you're lost.

It's not that hard to add nav buttons on top of every page - that's
why Al Gore invented cut-and-paste. Or was it Gill Bates? [hmmm,
Steve Jobs? - durn, I can never remember].
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>Actually Andy has suggested (and Jory agrees) that we will move the
>piclist.com homepage down one level and make a new site-map/"introduction"
>page with links to
>>PICList FAQ - For new visitors to this site
>>PIC FAQ
>>SX FAQ
>>SEARCH this site
>>PICLIST Mailing List information (including subscribe & posting directions)
>>PICLIST Mailing List Archives
>>PICLIST.COM Project Resources
>>PICList.com Source Code Library
>>Related Sites
>and with the most basic PICList information below that.
>
>Any comments?
>

Good start.

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>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: pic microcontroller discussion list
>[mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU]On Behalf Of Dan Michaels
>Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 11:43
>To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
>Subject: Re: [PIC]:"Hello World" on a 16f84 & HD44780-compatible LCD
>Importance: Low
>
>
>Hey, Jim, if you put a few "nav buttons" on the top of each
>page, I'm sure AndyK would stop baiting you.  :)
>====================
>
>
>At 09:00 AM 10/04/2000 -0700, you wrote:
>>http://www.piclist.com
>>click on "PIC FAQ", that should be obvious.
>>Now you have a choice of:
>>- Beginners Checklist. Steps, tutorials,help, advice.
>>- Development tools / Programmers
>>- Instruction Set Reference
>>- Routines / Code library / Input/Output
>>
>>isn't "Routines / Code library / Input/Output" the obvious choice? That
>gets
>>you to
>>- Input / Output
>>- Math / Functions / Conversions
>>- Conditionals / Program flow
>>- Time / Clocks / Delays
>>- Memory / Tables / Data
>>- Interrupts
>>
>>and below that is a link to the C specific library, but lets say that you
>>miss that and go to "Input / Output" where the major categories are:
>>- Ports
>>- Peripherals
>>- Networks
>>- Data Link - Busses and Com Standards
>>- Physical layer - Analog Signal Generation and Detection
>>
>>under "Peripherals" we find:
>>- Visual
>>- Audio
>>- Mechanical
>>
>>and under "Visual" we find "PIC Specific LCD" which gets us a list like:
>>- matrix LCD driver
>>- 4-bit 8x2 Hitachi LCD driver
>>- PIC C Hitachi LCD Drivers by Andy Kunz
>>- Vee (negative supply) from PIC PWM by David Covick
>>and some links to other sites below that.
>>
>>Now, how could anyone get lost there? If you went to the C Library, its the
>>same but there are a lot fewer entries... even easier. If you search the
>>site for "LCD" you get the generic LCD page which links to PIC Specific LCD
>>at the bottom.
>>
>>Any suggestions for making it easier to find things on the site would be
>>very appreciated.
>>
>>---
>>James Newton (PICList Admin #3)
>>mailto:jamesnewton@piclist.com 1-619-652-0593
>>PIC/PICList FAQ: http://www.piclist.com or .org
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: pic microcontroller discussion list
>>[mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU]On Behalf Of Andrew Kunz
>>Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 04:28
>>To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
>>Subject: Re: [PIC]:"Hello World" on a 16f84 & HD44780-compatible LCD
>>Importance: Low
>>
>>
>>Check the piclist.com site - there is a complete 4/8-bit interface in
>HiTech
>>C
>>for those LCD's that I did.
>>
>>I don't know how to find it as the site is organized counter-intuitively
>(to
>>me,
>>anyway).  You'd have to ask James Newton - he gave me the URL one time.
>>
>>There is a bug in the posted code.  In the routine which writes a byte
>>(selecting 4/8 bit mode of course), there is an extra click on the E pin.
>>You
>>need to move that to inside the 8-bit #if portion.
>>
>>Andy
>>
>
>--
>http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic:
>"[PIC]:" PIC only "[EE]:" engineering "[OT]:" off topic "[AD]:" ad's
>
>
>
>

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