Thanks a lot for all your input. What at first seemed like an easy task with a digitally controlled pot has now become a bit more complicated. I am going to have a closer look at the transformer, the h11fx part and the 4066 approach. Plus a couple of ideas of my own. Initially I was just going to replace the pot with a resistive circuit but now I may have too look at other possibilities, to see if I can achieve the same result by fiddling with other parts of the circuit. Maby the simplest is to get a 10kohm digitally controlled put and parallell it with a lower value resistor to get the currents down to accepted levels. Date sent: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 06:08:37 +1000 Send reply to: staff@blackrobotics.com From: Roman Black Organization: BlackRobotics (Fastvid) Subject: Re: [EE]:Resistive circuit To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU > Ruben Jvnsson wrote: > > > > Forgot to mention that it has to work with both positive and > > negative voltages (0V on one terminal and +- 1V oscillating at > > 150kHz on the other terminal). > > > > You have some special needs there Ruben, but I have a suggestion. > About 18 years back in an industrial elec subject I learned about > magnetic amplifiers. What you need is something reliable to adjust the > impedance in your tuned circuit. Like a pot. Semiconductors are all > going to be difficult to implement in that circuit. > > Imagine a small transformer like an audio coupling transformer etc. > One winding is used to replace the pot. With the other (control) > winding disconnected it will have a low impedance to your 150kHz ac > signal. Now, if you connect DC (not ac) to the control winding the > core of the transformer goes into saturation and it offers a high > impedance to the ac going through the other winding. > > So by adjusting the simple DC supply to the transformer you > can adjust the amount of core saturation and use that to control > ac current through the main winding. I have seen huge ones of these > control AC megawatts from quite a small dc input. Was common about 50 > years ago before things like thyristors came to save us all. > > Now you may have to purchase some small toroids or ferrite cores, and > wind them yourself, because at 150kHz they won't need many turns. That > is probably an advantage. It should be pretty easy to tune the thing > by adding/removing turns. Keep the dc control winding with more turns > to keep current to a more PIC-like level. You might also need to > fiddle with some ac damping (snubbers, zeners etc) on the control > winding but it shouldn't be too hard. Since you stated it was only > milliamps through the pots you will only need tiny transformers and > very small current to saturate a tiny core like that. > > This solution offers excellent industrial reliability and isolation > and once you have done the homework on the first one will be very easy > to wind the rest and has a fairly cheap parts count. If you are > already working with metal detector coils you probably have good > grounding in the magnetic formulas to give you rough turns to start > with. I'm afraid not. This is an old design, done long before I started my electronic career. > > That's the way I would do it! 1940s magnetic amp theory. :o) > -Roman > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList > mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu > ============================== Ruben Jvnsson AB Liros Elektronik Box 9124, 200 39 Malmv, Sweden TEL INT +46 40142078 FAX INT +46 40947388 ruben@pp.sbbs.se ============================== -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: "[PIC]:" PIC only "[EE]:" engineering "[OT]:" off topic "[AD]:" ad's