The embedded Systems Conference was held last week in San Jose, and Microchip was present in a big way. They have a (large!) new show booth, which showcased a large number of third party products built using PIC microcontrollers. There were new paper data books and a new CD. Upstairs (!) for their big giveaway, they were running hourly classes featuring their ICD development environment and hitech C (? one of the C compilers, anyway.) In an hour, you got to try out the mplab/ICD environment, fix the C program, download the code into a "4 channel digital voltmeter" utilizing the PIC16F873, use the debug enviroment to fix the run-time error, disconnect it and take it home. I thought it was an excellant compromise between "cool giveaway", educational seminar, and "showing off." Much better than listening to an actor deliver a canned talk for a tote bag! I hope microchip continues in this way, and I hope other vendors copy them. An hour was just barely enough time for this, especially if you'd never used the environment or a laptop with ff-joystick, but they had appropriate assistance available and things seemed to go pretty well. Don't forget to take the chip/system out of debug mode before disconnecting it - the bugs were easy to find, but I spent the next 20 minutes carefully following "the rest of the instructions" looking for a hidden step that I'd missed when my meter stopped working after being disconnected :-) BillW -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu