REC Electronics in Auckland (www.rec.com.au) get me SMT parts from Australia. DIP is very hard to get, everything is committed and they can't ship it in from Atmel quick enough. I'd have preferred DIP myself but as you say, very long lead times. What I'll probably do for my mucking about is put the SMT parts on socket-mounted PCBs. PITA but a micro's a micro > What is your source for 2313's? Are these SOIC packages? > I've started thinking that Atmel is a clone of Motorola when it > comes to parts availability, but maybe the problem is with my > distributor (All American). > Mark Walsh -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu